Comments for On the Human http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human a project of the National Humanities Center Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:42:46 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on In Praise of Pleasure by alex rosenberg http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2012/02/in-praise-of-pleasure/comment-page-1/#comment-8999 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:42:46 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=3146#comment-8999 I’m glad to be taken to task by Geoffrey Harpham in so indulgent and learned a manner. Pleasure, enjoyment, enrichment, the rewards of reading, listening, watching and looking, are no less important than wisdom and knowledge. Our age has ceded higher priority to knowledge than to enjoyment, and so tempted humanists to try to provide knowledge instead of what the narrative and the plastic arts (and the non-narrative ones for that matter) can offer. The distraction that has tempted so many humanists in no way reduces the importance of the humanities. It only reduces their audience and their impact, to every one’s disadvantage.

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Comment on In Praise of Pleasure by Bill Benzon http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2012/02/in-praise-of-pleasure/comment-page-1/#comment-8974 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:43:23 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=3146#comment-8974 Well, it’s one thing to argue that, for example, the newer psychologies and other developments are relevant to humanistic inquiry and ought to be taken into account. It’s something rather different to argue that they’ll enable a clean sweep of the humanistic stables and the consilient triumph of science. Though I’ve pursued these newer disciplines as ardently as any humanist, and longer than most, I’m deeply skeptical of consilience happy-talk.

But enough of that.

Graham Harman has a recent post giving us a glimpse into a new book by Bruno Latour. The English title is An Inquiry Into Modes of Existence and it’s scheduled, I believe, for 2013 at Harvard UP (the French will be out later this year). Judging from what Harman says, it points to another way of conceptualizing these matters:

Instead of everything being part of a big flat network, there are different and incompatible networks, each with its own modes of veridicition, its own “conditions of felicity and infelicity.” … One example, for instance, would be that law doesn’t have the same truth-conditions as scientific reference. Law links together chains of documents and other evidence and comes out with a result that one hopes is something like justice. Law does not function on the basis of a correspondence theory of truth.

A different mode of veridicition, that seems right to me.

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Comment on Final Thoughts of a Disenchanted Naturalist by Charels T. Wolverton http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2012/01/final-thoughts-of-a-disenchanted-naturalist/comment-page-1/#comment-8965 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:42:14 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=3126#comment-8965 The essence of Frank Williams’ Popper quote seems to be that determinism implies that decision making is an illusion. To which I can only reply “doh!”. For a somewhat more sophisticated critique of the full passage from which the quote is taken, see:

http://www.psych.umn.edu/faculty/meehlp/100Determinism-freedomMind-body.pdf

And while I agree with Williams that we can’t tell if our “reasoning” – ie, any particular argument for determinism – is correct, neither can we tell if any argument for any position is correct. But one must nevertheless argue on – or not.

There are obvious possibly disconcerting consequences to strict determinism, but that doesn’t negate it. Feigl and Meehl suggest that Popper’s fear of “the nightmare of determinism” may rest on a confusion with strict predictability. But absent predictability, there’s really nothing to fear – the illusion works just fine.

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Comment on Final Thoughts of a Disenchanted Naturalist by Charels T. Wolverton http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2012/01/final-thoughts-of-a-disenchanted-naturalist/comment-page-1/#comment-8957 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:04:44 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=3126#comment-8957 I agree with Tom Clark that human behavior can be described in different vocabularies for different purposes – some scientific, others “human-level”. But I don’t see Prof Rosenberg as disagreeing with that. He specifically addresses “knowledge”, which requires that a description pass muster within an appropriate peer group (Rorty’s Sellarsian “truth is what your peers let you get away with saying”), and observes that as the scientific aspects of human behavior are better understood, the peer group for assessing the knowledge-worthiness of descriptions in the human-level vocabularies will increasingly include those who have relevant scientific knowledge, and therefore will require that the descriptions be scientifically sound if they are to be accepted as “knowledge” (in the above sense). Of course, even descriptions that fail that test may be praised on other grounds, eg, aesthetic. If I’m right, then Prof Rosenberg’s claim seems no more than – if he’ll pardon the expression – common sense.

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Comment on Final Thoughts of a Disenchanted Naturalist by Frank Williams http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2012/01/final-thoughts-of-a-disenchanted-naturalist/comment-page-1/#comment-8953 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:32:08 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=3126#comment-8953 Rosenberg has implied, and elsewhere stated, that freewill is an illusion, and that human action and behavior is caused and pre-determined by brain-states as being explained (or confidence – faith? – that they will soon to be explained) by neuroscience. I have two misgivings. One, he seems to neglect the claims by some very competent neuroscientists and philosophers about the limitations of neuroscience: Tallis, Gazzaniga, Pigliucci, et al. Second, he seems unaware of a significant objection to determinism.
First. When neuroscientists, by examining my brain-states, using fMRIs or some more advanced techniques, can correctly describe what I was thinking or seeing or saying (and in what language I was saying it) when the brain-scan was taken (WITHOUT being told what I was doing when the scan was taken) . . . well, until they can do that, I’ll remain skeptical that it CAN be done. I’m an empiricist –just claiming that something can or one day will be done, or that research seems to be moving in that direction is little more than hopeful hand-waving! It moves too quickly from correlations to causes, from necessary to sufficient conditions, and from small studies to sweeping generalizations. For comments about the latter, see publications by John Ioannidis.
Second, and in my opinion more significant. Karl Popper wrote:
“For according to determinism, any theories-such as, say, determinism – are held because of a certain physical structure of the holder (perhaps of his brain). Accordingly we are deceiving ourselves (and are physically so determined as to deceive ourselves) whenever we believe that there are such things as arguments or reasons which make us accept determinism. Or in other words, physical determinism is a theory which, if it is true, is not arguable, since it must explain all our reactions, including what appear to us as beliefs based on arguments, as due to purely physical conditions.” [Objective Knowledge, 223-24]
A typical determinist philosophers’ response to this is that determinism does NOT imply that we do not reason or argue; rather it implies that all our reasoning is caused by antecedent conditions, and that does not at all mean that all our reasoning is incorrect. Well, true enough; but it also does not mean that any of our reasoning is correct, which raises the question, “How can we tell when it is or isn’t correct?” The answer, seems to me, is that if determinism is true then we can’t tell.
Consider an illustration. (I do not claim that determinists think the brain is just a very complex computer. However, a computer is a useful example of a completely deterministic system.) Suppose a computer so constructed that for some calculations it always gives the wrong answers and for others it always provides the right answers. Is there any way that computer could double-check (OK, a little anthropomorphism here) it’s own calculations and correct the mistaken ones? No, because it always “thinks” that its calculations are correct; it will always calculate the way it was predetermined to calculate by its hardware and software. Likewise, if determinism is true then, as Popper noted, whatever we think is what we are predetermined to think by antecedent conditions. This doesn’t imply that determinism is false, but only that if it is true then we cannot have any adequate basis for thinking that ANY of our reasoning is trustworthy. If we provide reasons for view X, we do so merely because we were predetermined to do so; and those who offer reasons against view X do so merely because that’s what they were predetermined to do. Whether any of the reasons offered are good or trustworthy is irrelevant. This approach was spelled out in detail by J.N.Jordan [“Determinism’s Dilemma,” Review of Metaphysics, Sept. 1969].
David Barash puts the upshot of all this nicely: “It seems clear that human beings are the most flexible and adaptable creatures on earth, capable of choosing their own destiny. At the same time, it is also clear that there is a definite genetic influence on many aspects of our behavior, especially when it comes to sex, violence, parenting, even tendencies for altruism and selfishness. The more we understand that influence, the more free we are to chart our own course.” http://faculty.washington.edu/dpbarash/faq.html The humanities provide needed help in charting our course.
So, do we ever have good, trustworthy (but admittedly never infallible) reasons for believing some things? I think we do, and I suspect that you do too. Thus a closing apparent paradox:
If determinism is true, then we can’t have good, trustworthy reasons for believing anything (including for believing that determinism is true); but we do have some (at least fairly) good reasons for believing that determinism (and lots of other stuff) is true. Therefore (by modus tollens) determinism is false.

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Comment on Final Thoughts of a Disenchanted Naturalist by Tom Clark http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2012/01/final-thoughts-of-a-disenchanted-naturalist/comment-page-1/#comment-8952 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:25:03 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=3126#comment-8952 Rosenberg thinks that science and “explanation by interpretation” are incompatible and mutually exclusive, so we must choose between them. Merely physical systems such as ourselves can’t really refer to external goings-on, so higher level (e.g., historical) accounts of human action involving motivations, meanings, intentions, purposes, desires, etc. are mere simulacra of knowledge. But microphysical and neural explanations don’t compete with human-level explanations; rather they elucidate the mechanisms subserving reference and cognition involving abstract concepts, including those Rosenberg himself deploys. Understanding these mechanisms constitutes a philo-scientific research agenda; that there may be no canonical physicalist account of reference doesn’t mean it’s impossible. Indeed, his debunking of non-scientific explanations, here and in his book, makes use of a higher-level referential vocabulary that, according to his own thesis, doesn’t convey knowledge. That we understand his thesis strongly suggests it’s false. Unless, of course, we’re all under the *illusion* of understanding, in which case so is Rosenberg.

We can and must have both a physicalist story about the production of speech and behavior and an intentionalist, purposive, human-level psychological story. That the latter is sometimes misleading doesn’t impugn its overall utility in explaining human action. And it’s the utility, the predictive power of explanations, both in the hard sciences and the humanities, that gives us knowledge and that certifies their elements (fermions and bosons, beliefs and desires) as real. These two ontologies are not in competition or mutually exclusive. The humanities and the human sciences, irreplaceable in their explanations, have nothing to fear from physicalism or naturalism.

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Comment on Final Thoughts of a Disenchanted Naturalist by David Duffy http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2012/01/final-thoughts-of-a-disenchanted-naturalist/comment-page-1/#comment-8939 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:55:33 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=3126#comment-8939 Non-overlapping magisteria of knowledge and pleasure ;)

I have a couple of quibbles:

Biology would not accept the gene as real until it was shown to have a physical structure: is as untrue as similar statements about chemistry and atoms.

Must science write off interpretation the way it wrote off phlogiston theory—a nice try but wrong?: I won’t address history, but in the case of personality and temperament, one of the main tools is asking individuals how they would characterise themselves eg “I often avoid meeting strangers because I lack confidence with people I do not know”. Responses to a number of such questions can be mathematically analysed to extract underlying consistent features that psychologists believe to correspond to characteristics of the individual brain physiology. And these stable personality traits can be correlated with measured behaviour, mental illness, structure, physiology and genotype (well, to some extent). Famously, the first two higher order factors (“Harm Avoidance/Neuroticism”, “Novelty Seeking/Extraversion”) correspond to the Greek humours. So introspective interpretations (or perhaps observation and recollection of one’s own behaviour) that cohere with scientific understanding are alive and well, at least in this corner of psychology: personality, psychometrics, behaviour genetics.

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Comment on A Suicidal Tendency in the Humanities by Jason King http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2012/01/a-suicidal-tendency-in-the-humanities/comment-page-1/#comment-8933 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:43:12 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=3088#comment-8933 This conversation, while ending here, continues on Facebook. Join us there by logging on to your Facebook account and proceeding to our group: On the Human.

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Comment on A Suicidal Tendency in the Humanities by Raymond Tallis http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2012/01/a-suicidal-tendency-in-the-humanities/comment-page-1/#comment-8932 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:31:57 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=3088#comment-8932 In response to Joseph Carroll:
I have probably been corrupted by my training as a scientist but I do not accept a list of references to like-minded thinkers as an argument. It is perilously close to the ‘argument from authority’: “Look at all these clever folk that have written in this field and who see things as I do”. It would be unkind to suggest echoes of the lemmings argument: 10,000 lemmings cannot be wrong. In my short piece, I could not clearly cover a large and, alas, growing, field in detail. There is, however, enough in what I have written (with quotations from leading figures, including Carroll himself) for a discussion.

At any rate, it is significant that Carroll does not seem to believe that I have misrepresented the views of anyone I quote. Nor, of course, does he engage with any of the arguments I put forward against neural and evolutionary approaches to literature. Hand waving in the direction of books and articles by people who agree with him is not good enough. Hic Rhodus, hic salta.

The refusal to engage with critics is reminiscent of the previous suicide attempt of the humanities when Theory reigned unopposed. Many years after that fad had passed (though it is still taught to some students) people came up to me and said that they had agreed with my critique (set out in full-length books) but had not wished to admit to doing so as it would have been fatal to their advancement. And of course the leading figures had too much at stake to want to reflect on the possibility that they might have taken a disastrously wrong turn. At any rate, there was scarcely a peep from within the opaque geodesic dome of Theory. Neuro-evolutionary-prefixed humanities do not having anything like the stranglehold of Theory but the refusal to engage with critics is just as strange. As I said in my piece, plus ca change…

Those who would like to look further at the problems (to put it politely) with ‘neuro-evolutionary’ humanities could do worse than consult the many pages I devote to them in Aping Mankind: Neuromania, Darwinitis and the Misrepresentation of Mankind.

In response to David Livingstone Smith:
I can understand why Professor Smith may agree with my position while at the same wishing that I had been a little more polite. I believe, however, that biologism, supported by the two pillars of unwisdom that I have named ‘Neuromania’ and ‘Darwinitis’, is a very serious aberration and its exponents seem to be impervious or deaf to arguments conducted in the usual tone of voice.

Like Professor Smith, I think there is an important task to be carried out in trying to bridge the gap between science and the humanities. As a clinical neuroscientist who has also published over a score of books in the broad field of the humanities, as well as verse and fiction, I am deeply aware of this. Indeed my Newton’s Sleep: Two Kingdoms and Two Cultures (1995) deals with this issue.

Attempts to bridge that regrettable gap will, however, be thwarted by the capitulation of certain humanities academics to scientism, and contracting interdisciplinary marriages in which the natural sciences are seen as the senior partner. It is surely telling that neuro-evolutionary literature criticism embraced by humanist intellectuals is not balanced by a new approach to neuroscience that is shaped by the methods traditionally used by literary critics. (The results would be dismal but at least its existence would testify to the equality of the partners in the marriage of biological science and humanities.)

My own endeavours to bring the discourse of science (or the area of science with which I am most familiar) closer to literature (as in my collections of verse, particularly Between the Zones – about light and water – and my prose work The Kingdom of Infinite Space) may or may not be successful but they at least demonstrate my willingness to work positively on this, the most important intellectual task that faces us. And I have endeavoured in the 1,000 pages of my trilogy on human consciousness (published by Palgrave and beginning with The Hand: A Philosophical Inquiry into Human Being) to make visible the gap between ourselves and all other living creatures and to develop an account of ‘how we came to be so different’: how the organisms H sapiens came to be the kinds of persons that walk the earth today. This included examining the biological roots of how we escaped from biology. I ended this particular enterprise with a sense of how much work there was to be done.

This work will be hampered by a naïve scientism that takes it for granted that a combination of neuroscience and Darwinism (two magnificent monuments of the human intellect) will account for what it is to be a human being, such that we can understand even the nature of art, of its creation and its appreciation, by reference to the human being as an evolved brain. Of course, the brain is a necessary condition of all aspects of our consciousness, behaviour etc (How can a clinician specialising in stroke and epilepsy not have noticed that?); but it not a sufficient condition. We humans have long since gone beyond the point at which our daily lives, never mind our aesthetic activities, could be usefully illuminated by peering into our brains or referring to life in the Pleistocene era.

So while my article has criticised one particularly absurd way of closing the gap between science and the humanities, I do not oppose this as an overall aim. It is because I value it that I take exception to the kind of ‘neuro-evolutionary’ nonsense that is spreading across academe. If John Locke found it ‘ambition enough to be employ’d as an under-labourer… removing some of the rubbish that lies in the way to knowledge’ it should be good enough for me. And in dealing with those who dump such rubbish, politeness should not always be the first consideration.

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Comment on A Suicidal Tendency in the Humanities by David Livingstone Smith http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2012/01/a-suicidal-tendency-in-the-humanities/comment-page-1/#comment-8925 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 01:30:10 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=3088#comment-8925 I am in many ways sympathetic to Raymond Tallis’ position. I agree with him that attempts to recruit neuroscience and evolutionary in the service of the humanities are often unacceptably reductionistic. I am even prepared to confess to being guilty of this intellectual sin.

However, I do not sympathize with his dismissive manner, and his failure to acknowledge that those whom he (offensively) diagnoses as suffering from neuromania and Darwinitis are wrestling with a real, and profound, philosophical conundrum.

Human beings ARE organisms and organisms ARE configurations of matter. It follows from this that physics and biology (and also neuroscience) must enter into a complete explanation of any state or activity of human beings. Does physics, or biology, or neuroscience provide a SUFFICIENT explanation for, say, the effects of Shakespeare’s prose? Of course not – but I very much doubt that anyone seriously believes that they do.

Rather than sneering at efforts to bridge the gap between traditionally humanistic modes of explanation and scientific modes of explanation, it is more productive to step up to the plate and take on the more challenging task of grappling with the question how these modes of explanation can be brought into some principled relation with one another (or, if this is deemed impossible, producing a coherent and empirically plausible account of why this might be).

David Livingstone Smith
Department of Philosophy
University of New England

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