Comments on: Animal In Mind: People, Cattle and Shared Nature on the African Savannah http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2011/10/animal-in-mind/ a project of the National Humanities Center Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:42:46 +0000 hourly 1 By: Steven Feld http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2011/10/animal-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-8415 Wed, 19 Oct 2011 04:29:41 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=2841#comment-8415 Vigdis Broch-Due’s reading of the “emotional intensity” and profound “cognitive intertwining'” that bonds “animals” and “humans” is profoundly resonant with my ethnographic experiences in rainforest New Guinea, where inhabitants live a close ecological and cosmological life in relation to birds, and well as in pastoral Europe, where shepherds display precisely the kind of sensibility and concern with their flocks that Turkana display with their herds. What is so grounded, significant, and poignant here is the way Broch-Due speaks to the deep reaches of co-evolution, environmental and aesthetic, that is locally not taken to be extraordinary at all, but a fact of life, variously a necessity and pleasure. This is both the everyday background or foreground to the sensibilities and practices of many people who deeply co-habit with “animals,” or, in Donna Haraway’s phrase, “companion species.” The ethnographic and eco-historical details are, of course, different in the global here vs. there, the now vs. then, but the bottom line is often the same: animals are central to how many humans know and imagine their humanity, and humans are central not just to how animals live and die, but how they too know themselves. I can’t agree more with Broch-Due’s riff on the “great gap separating Western discourses from” not just Turkana but from many local human philosophies of co-habitation. And reading her reminded me of a story about a Western ornithologist visiting highlands New Guinea. When he watched a local dance, with cleared ground, elaborately positioned maypole, objects, and feathered dancers, the naturalist quipped to a local headman: “I see you’ve copied the bowerbird and birds of paradise here.” The response was quick, dead-pan, and matter-of-fact: “No, they copied us.” It indeed takes one to know one.

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By: Teferi Abate http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2011/10/animal-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-8405 Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:37:30 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=2841#comment-8405 Emong’s dilemmas with his bull Lokorimeyen in this essay reminds me an equally “heart-stirring” popular Amharic song retrospectively praising a highland Ethiopian father who chose to be “the first” victim of a painful death from starvation during the 1984/85 famine. Like Emong, the Ethiopian man in this song used all the resources at his disposal to feed his starving children, together with a pair of dependable plough oxen still in the house. He was amazingly successful in doing this for a good part those hard days. With all strategies exhausted and painful death from starvation still looming, the song goes, the man chose to be the first to die by starving himself but still feeding the kids, together with the oxen. He did not slaughter the oxen to make it to the next day. He did not sell them either, because he wanted his surviving children to live a life worth living. Thank you for this excellent essay and many good comments.

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By: Peter Little http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2011/10/animal-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-8398 Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:07:19 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=2841#comment-8398 I found Vigdis Broch-Due’s essay on the plight of her Turkana friend, Emong, and his prized bull to nicely capture the paper’s key point about flawed conceptualizations of human (‘culture’) and animal (‘nature) relations in Western philosophy (and, I might add, ecological science!). For many of us who have worked in pastoral cultures of East Africa the blurred distinctions between humans and animals, especially cattle and camels, that Broch-Due describes are accurately on target. Only recently during a visit to Baringo District, Kenya, which borders the Turkana area to the south, was I struck by the care provided three young calves by a local herder. The young animals were tied by rope to a shade tree where they were hand fed a mix of maize porridge, milk, and local forage from metal bowls—the same kind of maize meal and bowls that are used by the herder’s children. I have thought about whether this is culturally and cognitively analogous to how we treat pets in the US and Europe, and have come to the conclusion that they are not comparable, which may explain why Broch-Due does not make the analogy. The very notion of having a domestic pet and ‘anthropomorphizing’ it reflects a division of nature and culture not too different from a wealthy US land owner or corporation that creates a private nature reserve that excludes humans as if a landscape devoid of people is ‘natural’. For Broch-Due’s Turkana friend, animals and the landscapes that sustain them are so intricately woven into his culture and identity that dissecting ‘nature’ from ‘culture’ is a misplaced effort. Had Broch-Due’s main point been to emphasize the desperate plight of Emong and his community, greater attention to the exclusion of people (‘culture’) from savanna landscapes (‘nature’), by conservation advocates and their allies, would have been more informative. That is where their flawed thinking about nature and culture probably has done the most harm for pastoralists of East Africa.

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By: Jacqueline Solway http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2011/10/animal-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-8396 Mon, 10 Oct 2011 03:25:24 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=2841#comment-8396 Many thanks to Broch-Due for her compelling and evocative essay. I have worked amongst pastoralists in Botswana and while many aspects of the pastoral system have been dismantled, enough was there in the late 1970’s for me to have observed numerous analogous phenomena. Cattle refracted the lives and social linkages of people and vice versa. All important life cycles transitions required cattle exchange and/or slaughter; the art of cattle naming reflected social relations, imagination and, often, delicious irony; chiefs’ meetings would stop while men discussed and admired a passing herd. But despite the enormous empathy, mutual nourishment and symbiosis described so beautifully in Evans Pritchard’s oecology of the Nuer, by Broch-Due in her invocation of shared pathways between animals and humans and by many others, I think Broch-Due may be taking matters too far by suggesting that the dualism of humans and others, animals included in the latter category, may be an occidental particularity and not shared by all, especially the Turkana. Ultimately, dualism is an ontological and epistemological problem for which we may have no absolute answer (see Descola for analysis of the variations in animal/human relations). However, I suspect it is the homologies – for instance cattle and humans have the same gestation period, both give milk – and mutual dependencies of people and animals, especially cattle, that enable animals as an other, to powerfully represent and mediate relations amongst humans. The emotional, material and spiritual interweaving of cattle and humans does not obviate the notion of animals as others; perhaps it strengthens it.

Pastoralists and cattle are intertwined but not kin; indeed as a projection of kin relations they serve to reinforce, to sanctify and to provide an external point of reference for the world of kin and social relations. And this they do by being alien, by being the other, perhaps an intimate other with whom there is mutual embodiment and for whom there is empathy and affection. But as Broch-Due acknowledges, cattle are killed, sacrificed, consumed, and castrated, and rocks are thrown at them in herding. They may be dreamed about, sung to, praised in poems or prose, but are they revered in their afterlife, as ancestors? In addition, as other commentators have mentioned, as Ferguson elaborated in his notion of the Bovine Mystique, and with male-owned cattle being theorized as the first form of private property by Engels–wrong but not to be dismissed–love and affinity for cattle is differentiated along gender lines.

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By: Dorothy Hodgson http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2011/10/animal-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-8394 Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:13:58 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=2841#comment-8394 As a long time friend and colleague of Vigdis’, I am once again struck by her enviable capacity to so beautifully capture and express the peculiar rhythms, reasons and rites of pastoralist lives and pathways. Having lived and worked among Maasai pastoralists in Tanzania for over 25 years, I have witnessed numerous stories like that of Emong and his bull that speak to the intensely affective and even sensual relationship between certain men and certain cattle.

I would suggest, however, that her story raises two issues that seem central to her argument but, perhaps because of space, are underexplored. The first is the role of the sacred and divine as a source for the interweaving of animal and human lives. Turkana, like Maasai, believe in an omnipotent divinity who is ever present in humans and nature and expresses pleasure and anger through natural events like rain and thunderstorms. While the Divine works through humans, and certain humans are viewed by others as being especially saintly or holy because of their actions and ideals, I wonder if Turkana believe that the Divine also works through or is reflected in the beauty or power of certain livestock? (We know that other kinds of animals – like chickens and fish – have historically elicited feelings of disgust, if not loathing, among many pastoralist groups.) Perhaps rather than a dyad of humans and animals, we should consider the relationship as part of a triangle including, if not encompassed by, the Divine?

Second, the brief mention of Emong’s wife speaks to the centrality and complexity of gender – of both humans and animals – to this story. A man’s pride in the handsomeness and virility of his bull, a woman’s fierce effort to protect her children, the power of a wife to influence her husband – these gendered interactions all shape the shared lives of Turkana and their cattle in the present and the possible pathways of those lives in the future.

Dorothy Hodgson
Professor & Chair
Department of Anthropology
Rutgers University

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By: Benjamin Campbell http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2011/10/animal-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-8392 Sun, 09 Oct 2011 00:29:16 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=2841#comment-8392 Vigdis Broch-Due starts her piece stating that the Turkana’s relationship with their animals stretches our understanding of the categories human and animal. Having worked in Turkana myself I can attest to a similar experience. At my initial entry into Turkana I was struck with how unusual it was to see people and camels walking single file down the highway, the camels with their swaying gait and the people wrapped in wool blankets in the 90 degree heat. Two weeks later the same sight no longer struck me as unusual. My sense of the human animal boundary had been stretched, indeed.

But the theme that Broch-Due ends with, that anthropology has an important role to play in challenging Western notions of a universal human experience of animals, is, in my opinion, even more important. I would like to take it to its logical conclusion by arguing that if there is a universal human animal relationship it is the one which exists in most of the world, i.e. the non-western non-industrialized societies. In contrast to members of industrialized societies, who have very little contact with wild or farm animals, members of agricultural and subsistence cultures have regular contact with animals during childhood, the period during which humans develop empathy and identification with others. If we are alienated from animals it is because we do not grow up with them, not because our philosophers told us so.

In this light the U.S. experience with pets looks very similar to that of Emong and his prized bull. Pet owners will go to great lengths to keep their animals alive, including costly medical treatments that may do little to prolong life. As with Emong, for those animals with which we associate closely our empathy leads us to consider them as almost human and act accordingly.

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By: Barbara A. Worley http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2011/10/animal-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-8391 Sat, 08 Oct 2011 21:52:46 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=2841#comment-8391 I really enjoyed reading this article!

I was having a similar conversation (about Tuareg men and camels) with one of my Tuareg friends just a couple of weeks ago, trying to confirm information I had collected in my earlier field work in Niger. The Tuaregs in rural areas of northern Niger have been pretty much off-limits since I left there in 1986, when the first shots of the rebellions rang out in a small town near my research area. Since then there have been several rebellions, and now al Qaeda has infiltrated, targeting Europeans and Americans in the heart of my research area.

I am lucky to have Tuaregs from my research area who have emigrated to the U.S. and live nearby in New York and New Hampshire. And so I was at a Tuareg wedding just a few weeks ago, in New Hampshire, and nearly all of the Tuaregs from northern Niger who live in Canada and the north-eastern U.S. were on hand for the celebration. There was a lull between the ceremony and the feasting, and my friends took me aside to exchange the news. I wanted to ask them whether Tuareg men dream about their camels, as I was told back in the 1980s. There was some discussion among them, and the consensus was yes, Tuareg men do sometimes have dreams about their camels, and they provided some examples. I needed this information for a lecture I was asked to give by a colleague here at the University of Massachusetts, Boston where I teach, for a class on “Dreams and Dreaming,” in the Anthropology Department.

Not only do Tuareg men sometimes dream about their camels (for example, their camels saving them by fleeing from desert djinns at night, or riders falling off their camels and being trampled), but Tuareg men also compose songs about them, like the Turkana. For example, in one song I collected, a young man’s camel “knows where his sweetheart is,” and navigates there under a new moon, without any guidance from the rider, who is unable to see familiar landmarks due to the lack of light. From the Tuaregs’ perspective, the camels understand their owners; they are psychic, and connected with the supernatural. Not all Tuaregs would agree with this, but I would not expect unilateral agreement on every issue, and I feel that this is normal. The fact that some Tuaregs think this way is of great interest, and opens a door to understanding Tuareg values.

Tuareg men, of course, take all pains to treat their camels well, and decorate them with the most expensive and lavish of neck ornaments, bridle dressings, saddles and saddle bags. Some will spend hours training their camels to “dance” to the women’s drumming and singing in community gatherings. They will even spend large amounts of money on magical amulets for their camels (worn about the neck) to protect them from danger, illness, and the mischievous djinns.

It is the supernatural aspects of the man-camel relationship that I find interesting, and I wonder if Vigdis Broch-Due might have more to say about Turkana and their spiritual beliefs in connection with the livestock? There may also be a gender difference in the way that Turkana feel about their bulls.

People’s feelings for animals varies enormously, not only from culture to culture but within the same culture.

I believe that Vigdis Broch-Due’s story about Emong illustrates some important truths about the Turkana. It was pointed out that his wife did not share Emong’s enthusiasm for the bull, and badgered him until he sold it when they couldn’t afford it any more. But in every culture there are differences between individuals, often between genders, and I would not expect a unilateral adoration of bulls among the Turkana. Hearing just this one story might raise some doubt, but from my own experience among Tuaregs, I sense that it is probably representative of the feelings of many Turkana men.

It is true also that Americans really don’t have any feelings about cows; and for lack of experience with any cows, why should they? Most Americans do not really associate cows with the packaged meat that we buy at the store, and know practically nothing about commercial cattle or the treatment of cows in the process of butchering. For Americans, cows are an icon of a way of life – the small family farm – that has now pretty much entered the realm of folklore and a bygone day.

The animal rights people have selectively chosen certain animals to “save” with their projects and media – and to save them primarily for the viewing pleasure of non-native tourists. Vigdis Broch-Due has rightly brought attention to the paradox that Turkana lands were taken from them by do-gooders to save selected animals, without regard for the livelihood and feelings of the people who have inhabited these lands for millennia.

Barbara A. Worley
Anthropologist

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By: Joel Marks http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2011/10/animal-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-8388 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:02:52 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=2841#comment-8388 Broch-Due has surely made the case that anthropology “deserves to be paid much more attention by both philosophers and animal activists.” This essay is emotionally gripping and intellectually profound. No doubt even my sympathetic reading has been somewhat offset by my own philosophical and activist biases, but in dialogue there is hope of mutual progress in understanding.

I am not convinced, however, that the gap of which Broch-Due speaks is as great as is made out in the essay. That there are great gaps among human beings in their conceptualizations (and resultant treatments) of other animals is surely true. But is it necessarily an East/West divide? The particular comparison that jumped to mind as I read the essay was between Emong’s caring for Lokorimeyen and the way many Americans care for, and think about, their pets. The “backgrounds” are utterly different, of course; but in terms of respect, empathy, solicitousness, and so forth, is there really that much difference?

By the same token, remember that the story is about Emong. Meanwhile, his wife “had pushed him mercilessly to get rid of the bull because she simply could not bear his obsession any more and they needed the money for the children.” So is this really a story about Turkana as such?

Furthermore, the essay takes for granted the identity of the bull and cows as “cattle.” According to my dictionary, that term derives from a word for “property.” The article acknowledges that these animals (or is it goats alone?) are also killed: both for meat, albeit “only in important ceremonies,” and for divination. So even the contradictoriness that is a hallmark of Western human attitudes towards animals is apparently to be found among Turkana.

My perhaps cynical view of the matter is that human beings will always use other animals (and for that matter other humans) as they want (and/or need) to, and at the same time conceptualize the animals in whatever local (and sometimes individual) ways will most facilitate that use. How could it be otherwise? But perhaps some of these ways are more true to the sensibilities of the animals and hence more conducive to their welfare and autonomy as they themselves would conceive it. I think insights from both East and West could help us here.

Yet even that observation may be somewhat beside the point (or perhaps illustrative of the point!) of Broch-Due’s essay, which seems to be primarily concerned with the ill effects of Western conceptualizations on human beings, and specifically, on nonWesterners whom Westerners are attempting to aid (by Western lights).

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By: Adamson Lanyasunya http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/2011/10/animal-in-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-8383 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:53:22 +0000 http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/on-the-human/?p=2841#comment-8383 This is a a good essay that describes not just the pastoralist value for livestock but how much the pastoralists have an inner attachment, liking, love for the livestock — including that of minding their life and not just taking them as mere economic commodities. The pastoralists take pride in their livestock in terms of colour, style of horns, the products they provide, and their role in various ceremonies and rituals.
Adamson Lanyasunya- researcher

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